This dialogue began at Mike Bird’s blog with a post titled “Would you bake a cake for a gay wedding? The Perspective from Aussie Christians!” Specifically, this is in answer to Lonnie’s request in this comment.
I’ve put Lonnie’s comments (including questions) in italics, and my answers to his questions follow in bold.
My own experience in homosexuality is all I ever needed to agree with the Bible, that homosexuality is a sin. However, having said that, I am absolutely convinced that Jesus can utterly put an end to homosexuality in the lives of broken people. I also believe that God absolutely created marriage for one male and one female, until death do them part.
You ask: “Do you really think that Paul would make a tent for the express purpose of use in a homosexual “wedding” ceremony?”
I can’t speak to whether Paul would or would not make a tent. I can take a look at what Jesus did at a wedding he attended.
“On the third day a wedding took place at Cana in Galilee. Jesus’ mother was there, 2 and Jesus and his disciples had also been invited to the wedding.3 When the wine was gone, Jesus’ mother said to him, “They have no more wine.”
4 “Woman,[a] why do you involve me?” Jesus replied. “My hour has not yet come.”
5 His mother said to the servants, “Do whatever he tells you.”
6 Nearby stood six stone water jars, the kind used by the Jews for ceremonial washing, each holding from twenty to thirty gallons.[b]
7 Jesus said to the servants, “Fill the jars with water”; so they filled them to the brim.
8 Then he told them, “Now draw some out and take it to the master of the banquet.”
Did Jesus attend the wedding to show his approval of marriage between one man and one woman or did he attend the wedding for the reasons Jesus gives in Luke 4:18-19? The Scripture does not tell us why Jesus attended the wedding.
Did Jesus attend the wedding at Cana because there were the poor there and he’d been anointed to preach good news to the poor, or was he standing in solidarity with hetero marriage? I see no reason why He couldn’t have attended for both reasons. And perhaps for others as well. Since the Scripture doesn’t explicitly say, however, we probably ought to be restrained in our speculations.
Did Jesus attend the wedding at Cana because he was sent to proclaim freedom for prisoners and for recovery of the sight of the blind, and to set the oppressed free? Or was Jesus making a public service announcement about the right way to do relationships? This is now a third time you have stated the same question in a slightly different form. As I’ve been saying, though the Scripture does not tell us why Jesus attended, there is no basis on which we can reject either of the two possibilities you raise. Nevertheless, there’s no record that He did or didn’t preach while there.
Are there poor people in need of the good news at a gay wedding? Yes.
Are there prisoners in need of freedom at a gay wedding? Yes.
Are there the blind, who need their sight restored at a gay wedding? Yes.
Are there oppressed people needing to be set free at a gay wedding? Yes.
None of this, however, means that this is the best time and place to reach these people with the good news of Christ. Is the Westboro Baptist Church winning anyone to Christ when they show up at events to tell everyone how wrong they are?
Did Jesus actually try to avoid the appearance of supporting evil? If Jesus was worried about looking guilty for hanging out with sinners, then he absolutely and utterly failed.
Jesus was more interested in being right and doing right than in appearing right. Thus He died by crucifixion – which made Him look wrong to a lot of people.
“Now the tax collectors and sinners were all gathering around to hear Jesus.2 But the Pharisees and the teachers of the law muttered, “This man welcomes sinners and eats with them.” Luke 15:1-2
Jesus knew he could and would overcome the world, so he had no need to worry about being contaminated by anything the world threw at him. The perception of his enemies (Luke 15) was that Jesus, far from avoiding the appearance of sin, actually courted sinners.
In 1 John 5:4, we are taught: “for everyone born of God overcomes the world. This is the victory that has overcome the world, even our faith.” So if you believe Jesus overcomes the world then you must also believe that you, a born again Christian, are conformed to the image and likeness of the overcoming savior. If you believe God’s word, and I believe you do then the Holy Spirit indwells you, and you too are called as Christ is called:
“The Spirit of the Lord is on me,
because he has anointed me
to proclaim good news to the poor.
He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners
and recovery of sight for the blind,
to set the oppressed free,
19 to proclaim the year of the Lord’s favor.”
Once again I ask you:
Are there prisoners in need of freedom at a gay wedding?
Are there the blind and oppressed at a gay wedding?
Are there poor people at a gay wedding who need to hear the good news preached?
Are there those at a gay wedding who need to hear the proclamation of the year of the Lord’s favor?
I answered all these questions above. Note also that Nicodemus came to the Lord by night; Jesus did not call him to repentance in the middle of a Sanhedrin meeting.
And I also ask you: Does Jesus overcome the world and does that include homosexuality? Yes. If you are born of God then do you not also overcome the world? Yes. But neither answer means that we must participate in celebrations of homosexuality.
If you were dragged before a court of law today would there be enough evidence to convict you of, “…receiving sinners and eating with them,” as the Pharisees accused Jesus of doing in Luke 15:2?? You speak as if Jesus went out looking for sinners to court; the reality is that Jesus went out to preach repentance, and the “sinners” who repented were the ones who hung out with Him.
My reason for not attending a homosexual meeting can be best understood by recognizing that when the minister asks “If anyone here knows of just cause why these two should not be joined together let him speak now or else hereafter hold his peace,” I would be conscience-bound to speak up. I don’t think the hosts would be pleased. And while I think that such a “wedding” is wrong, I don’t think making a scene at their ceremony is the best way for me to make that point. Therefore, I think the best way for me to speak the truth in love is to say it with the silence of my absence rather than vocalizing the point with my presence and thereby alienate everyone present.